Roopesh: So only few replies, good morning, everyone.
Dhanasekaran P: Good morning! Good morning! Good morning!
Suraj kumar mishra: Good morning, sir!
Shubham Gawade: Morning, sir!
Ravikumar Patel: Good morning, sir! Good morning.
PG Diploma: I request all the participants who kindly unmute their video and please interact with best Luhanna, sir, and after no satisfactory interaction will begin our class. Actually, it will be. You know, the class is always a two-way process.
PG Diploma: It's not a 1 way traffic. Actually. So it will be very interesting if you participate in the class. Actually, often I observe that you know, after the beginning of the class, and I know after some time in 30 min. The you know. It is only one way traffic. So I request you all to please. You know, it is online session, actually. And therefore, if you will be, you know, if you'll participate, then it will be more interesting and interactive.
PG Diploma: Thank you.
PG Diploma: So we can own our video. And then we'll just have some interaction. Then we'll begin.
Roopesh: So can we unmute our cameras?
Roopesh: Yeah? Who?
Roopesh: So something is started?
Roopesh: Sanjay Chaitan, Ravi, Suraj Satish, yogesh abhijib.
PG Diploma: Request everyone to please, unmute your cameras.
Roopesh: Okay, few more Mittal Sanjay.
Roopesh: I don't think.
Roopesh: Okay, Abhiji.
Roopesh: I'm having struggle to unmute my camera specifically cool. Anyways, just just a moment.
Roopesh: Just give me a minute, you know.
Roopesh: Okay, so I am having struggle in unmuting my camera. But I still request everybody to please be on camera.
Roopesh: Can we do it.
Roopesh: Okay.
Roopesh: So what should we consider?
Roopesh: Are we not there?
Roopesh: Oh, Mahatma, Gandhi said, and she says.
Roopesh: but it says, I'm late
Roopesh: to go through the confused. Okay.
Roopesh: another effectively, my communicator.
Roopesh: So same goes here also.
Roopesh: But that's something which is beyond my control as of now.
Roopesh: So let us begin our session.
Roopesh: So I, as Dr. Vinay says, create 2 way interaction.
Roopesh: Yeah. So most of us are working professional on the industry. My account here.
Roopesh: So Hamar pass codes, basic understanding, or already have
Roopesh: Pssr free startup safety reviews the basic understanding of.
Roopesh: So let us start discussing on the topic itself. You know, if I'm
Roopesh: understanding. That is the whole objective definitely content.
Roopesh: Okay, so and again, my request will be, you know, should work correct.
Roopesh: so that we be sure we upload his session ahead.
Roopesh: Abhijit Abhijit! Patel.
Roopesh: are you there?
Roopesh: Not there, Manish Bakshi!
Bakshi Manish: Yeah. Good good morning. Sir.
Roopesh: Good morning. Good morning. What is your understanding on? Pssr.
Bakshi Manish: Just a minute.
Bakshi Manish: sir. Could you repeat your gotcha.
Roopesh: My question is, what is our understanding around? Pssr. What is Pssr.
Bakshi Manish: Actually, Pssr is a pre-start of safety. Any major shutdown job has been taken on new installation means
Bakshi Manish: emission at the site. So before starting the plant or taking the use we have to carry our pea starter safety.
Bakshi Manish: so to ensure whether the facility is
Bakshi Manish: is made as per design, aspect, or not.
Roopesh: Perfect. So do you feel this statement. What Sumanish has just gave is correct.
Roopesh: or something is missing in this.
Roopesh: So, Santosh, can you add.
Chaudhari santosh: Yes, sir. Job. Because new project.
Roopesh: Right.
Roopesh: But I have a feeling already.
Roopesh: Okay, locally.
Ravikumar Patel: Compulsory.
Roopesh: Good.
Roopesh: So Pssr is that is called Pssr. After long, long, you know.
Roopesh: one month, 15 days, 10 days, 7 days. Then, before restarting, we will do. Pssr.
Roopesh: So long shutdown, Kelly, over there, or this Kelly over there.
Shubham Gawade: Which new equipment, introduction, work, changes, work which management may work.
Roopesh: Very nice.
Roopesh: So
Roopesh: change implement
Roopesh: very nice. All all the pieces are.
Shubham Gawade: For any new project which we are done heads up, and we check the compliance of the heads up has been done in the Pss. Order.
Roopesh: Excellent. So these are important aspect, and generally we consider this as Greenfield Project.
Roopesh: The will be
Roopesh: Major Chunk of facility go existing.
Roopesh: No East Case man. Entirely new facility, ma'am.
Roopesh: so don't direct. Pssr. Make a difference with that.
Roopesh: Get done.
Sanjay Joshi: New facility, approval, license, your existing house meadow.
Sanjay Joshi: I'm going to.
Roopesh: Right
Roopesh: perfect, or all the different.
Ketan Kevadiya: Why is that after every Moc.
Roopesh: Hmm.
Ketan Kevadiya: And after hijab, and after long shutdown.
Roopesh: Right.
Roopesh: My next question was, and new facility, legal compliance.
Roopesh: requirement, like in my facility, definitely.
Shubham Gawade: In the existing facility. We know that this may be the hazardous things, or we are familiar with the hazards. But in the Greenfield project when the we are new to the process, and we are not that much aware about the existing
Shubham Gawade: hazards like this new process is new for everyone. But the existing process is something which we know that this particular unit operation may be the critical one. So we can more focus on that things
Shubham Gawade: that might be comes when we get the experience.
Shubham Gawade: Yes.
Roopesh: Right integrity.
Roopesh: Okay, so we will discuss around this, you know in detail in next coming, one and a half hour.
Roopesh: So whatever question you have. You
Roopesh: ask me in between for clarity.
Roopesh: we will close it completely after discussing and concluding on that particular aspect.
Roopesh: Okay, so, Shubhanka, sorry
Roopesh: are you there?
Subhakanta Nayak: Yeah.
Roopesh: What? What is your expectation from today's session?
Subhakanta Nayak: Yeah.
Subhakanta Nayak: I'll make sure.
Subhakanta Nayak: But the I think a detailed procedure. Yeah. Dude
Subhakanta Nayak: development within all the detailed knowledge.
Roopesh: Okay. Good.
Subhakanta Nayak: Oh, yeah.
Roopesh: Any any other expectation from anybody. Other participants.
Sanjay Joshi: What is the thermo checklist for the Bssm.
Subhakanta Nayak: What amount is?
Roopesh: What else?
Sanjay Joshi: Checklist. What are the checklist? Do we use.
Roopesh: Yeah, yeah, anything else.
Roopesh: Okay, so basic expectation. I understand that we we want to enhance our knowledge around. Pssr, if you have thorough checklist available. So if somebody is not having, he will get that.
Roopesh: And maybe during discussion, we come across few doubts. So we will clarify that.
Roopesh: Okay, so with that, let us begin.
Roopesh: So as my introduction was given, I'm working with up Limited. I'm taking care of all the formulation sites in India.
Roopesh: So this presentation I have prepared. With my whatever wisdom I have around pieces are based on my experience. So we'll focus more on the practicality theory everybody knows.
Roopesh: So I'm sharing my screen.
Roopesh: Somebody, please confirm if it is visible.
Shubham Gawade: Yes, it is.
Chaudhari santosh: You too, Buddy.
Dhanasekaran P: For this issue.
Roopesh: Okay, great.
Roopesh: Okay, so let us understand, what is. Pssr.
Roopesh: okay, so just a moment, this display not bear with me.
Roopesh: Alright. So we'll understand what are the Psm elements? Because, without understanding Psm elements, it is difficult to understand Psr itself. Then we will understand what is Psr in detail.
Roopesh: What are the benefits and applications.
Roopesh: then it's interface with other elements. This is what we will discuss today.
Roopesh: So, as we most of us know, I know the management of process safety in all 3 major
Roopesh: means categorization under which the different elements falls.
Roopesh: So that is technology.
Roopesh: then facility and personnel. These are the 3 categories under which the all elements are divided.
Roopesh: So, again repeating, if anybody is having any question or requirement of clarity, just the team.
Roopesh: so we can close it. And otherwise we'll move on
Roopesh: with understanding that this all we know and understand.
Roopesh: Okay, so under technology, there are 4 major elements.
Roopesh: one is process technology, and then we also call it safety information. It is part of it.
Roopesh: then, operating procedure and safer practices.
Roopesh: Example is Sops, then, management of change.
Roopesh: So management of change, again, is categorized under 3.
Roopesh: Again, technology facility and personnel.
Roopesh: So each type of chain is one of the element.
Roopesh: then 4th is the process, result, analysis. So there are various tools of doing. Pha.
Roopesh: most common is what's what if? And as of
Roopesh: so these are the 4 elements under technology, then it comes to facilities.
Roopesh: So under facility, we have quality, assurance.
Roopesh: pre startup safety review, which is the topic of discussion today.
Roopesh: Mechanical integrity.
Roopesh: Sometimes it is club, the quality, assurance, and mechanical integrity in one, and it is called as asset integrity.
Roopesh: Then the 4th one is management of subtle change.
Roopesh: We also call it. Facility, change.
Roopesh: subtle means, smaller changes that we do.
Roopesh: Then the 3rd category is the Psm. Under Psm. Element is personal.
Roopesh: So under this there is training and performance.
Roopesh: contractor, safety and performance or contractor management system.
Roopesh: Then next is incident investigation.
Roopesh: Sometimes we call it communication, sometime recording, but mainly incident investigation.
Roopesh: Next is management of chain personnel. This is also one of the important elements, and under Moc.
Roopesh: mostly people fails under this category. The management of chain facility or technology, we are doing rigorously.
Roopesh: But management of change personnel sometimes we miss.
Roopesh: then next is emergency planning and response.
Roopesh: And last, but not the least, is the auditing.
Roopesh: and the main significant aspect around auditing is the it ensures the all other elements.
Roopesh: how they are performing
Roopesh: and what is the effectiveness level. So the last element, and shows the effectiveness of all other elements.
Roopesh: So these are the Esm elements. Can we move forward.
Shubham Gawade: Yes, sir.
Yogesh Chamadiya: Yes, sir.
Roopesh: So your replies gives me confidence that whatever I'm saying is getting communicated.
Roopesh: Okay.
Roopesh: so process technology, we will briefly understand. You know, what are the different elements are so under process technology, the 3 things which gets covered number one is the source of material.
Roopesh: then process, design, basis and equipment design basis.
Roopesh: So our process technology gets the complete picture
Roopesh: work practices.
Roopesh: So it's my coffee operating procedure and scope instruction
Roopesh: safe operating safe maintenance procedure. Get the hand
Roopesh: operating procedure. We get there. So there are so many things.
Roopesh: It is basically is a protocol of doing something. Safety.
Roopesh: Okay?
Roopesh: So just say for practice over there.
Roopesh: Client system or procedure has who's called
Roopesh: authorization. They may have before performing. You know it gives us complete confidence that the all the risk involved in that particular activity is properly assessed, and controls are
Roopesh: described or recommended in the procedure.
Roopesh: So other harm
Roopesh: a follow up, ma'am. So whatever we are intend to do, we will be able to complete it safely.
Roopesh: then, management of change, technology.
Roopesh: So process technology hazards of material equipment, design, basis and process design basics or and in the post technology
Roopesh: must get documented or U.S.A. thorough review before implementation.
Roopesh: Usually, I'm book.
Roopesh: They'll control hazard control, you know, who say? Associated
Roopesh: to identify in organized manner. This helps
Roopesh: no when we say Pssr.
Roopesh: so Psrk team stages. When I mentioned, there may be more, and based on our philosophy. Every organization makes its own management process standard.
Roopesh: or the procedure for having this.
Roopesh: So at up, we have divided this Psa in
Roopesh: 3 stages and 4 stage. We call it. As
Roopesh: so you all know your Oh
Roopesh: project concept stage of the basic engineering stage of the app.
Bakshi Manish: We call the problem.
Roopesh: Second stage or the go Pre-approval stage with this number of basic
Roopesh: yes, it is viable, and we can go with it.
Roopesh: Then 3, rd stage after project, approval during design, stage, or detailed.
Roopesh: Then, after implementation, we cross it, that what? What whatever we have done
Roopesh: is it matching with our design intent, and
Roopesh: so Pssr. To have it acts as a bridge, you know.
Roopesh: between the design specification and installation.
Roopesh: So we make sure what we have intended. We have implemented the same.
Roopesh: So it's major focus area or 10.
Roopesh: So process equipment fabrication, who as per specification where her name, where to location
Roopesh: then assembled as per requirement.
Roopesh: Okay?
Roopesh: So if after facility live, give me one second here.
Roopesh: Do how many design and specified? Et?
Roopesh: Then it focuses on ensuring that system, integrity to contain hazardous substance
Roopesh: and maintain throughout the life of the facility amnejo material of construction.
Roopesh: material loss of primary containment
Roopesh: or lifetime maintain so mechanical integrity. You have a
Roopesh: initially and during operation the Hampot and short term.
Roopesh: your proposed working condition on the environment will be changed that time of the mechanical integrity that comes under question.
Roopesh: and that may be detrimental to the equipment or system.
Roopesh: then maintenance, procedure, aba both important aspects and mechanical integrity, only because
Roopesh: Agarham specified maintenance, so mechanical integrity, both training and performance to do
Roopesh: a people aspect here maintenance, training.
Roopesh: or awareness procedure goes to ensure.
Roopesh: Then, when we talk about subtle changes, so
Roopesh: many a times. We think that yeah impact Osaka, I know.
Roopesh: So I request somebody, if he or she can share
Roopesh: 1 2 example of smaller changes that we do in our factories.
Roopesh: Hello.
Roopesh: yeah.
Roopesh: You were saying saying something to Loganda.
Subhakanta Nayak: No offense.
Roopesh: Who can share, so that.
Bakshi Manish: Yes, I will share one.
Roopesh: Yeah.
Bakshi Manish: Incident happened recently in our plant. Actually, the
Bakshi Manish: plant operating condition set and limit was given for the 50 to 55% based on that they have to operate. The plant. Lt
Bakshi Manish: right is on the Lt 50 to 55% range. They have to operate and start the best.
Bakshi Manish: But what they did, and to increase the productive production that they have.
Roopesh: Draws the limit and share the limit point at 85%.
Bakshi Manish: 3, 4 batches. Nothing was went wrong
Bakshi Manish: after 4 wedges material will bump out from the receiver to condenser.
Bakshi Manish: So so that's why the whatever the subtle changes they made in the plant in the running condition.
Bakshi Manish: the Pssr. Must be carried out before the after.
Bakshi Manish: so nothing should be go wrong
Bakshi Manish: might be correct or not. You can.
Roopesh: No, no.
Bakshi Manish: Digital.
Roopesh: Right means. I don't know whether the proper assessment was done before doing this change or not, because during the what if discussion. Also, we should think of why.
Bakshi Manish: But.
Roopesh: Particular level was kept initially, why it was designed like so
Roopesh: so that is important to consider. But yes.
Roopesh: so this is one of the good example of subtle change that we do, and.
Bakshi Manish: Second major thing is that then, whatever the limit points, said, the control should not be given to the operator, the field operator rather.
Bakshi Manish: That was a we miss that here.
Roopesh: Okay.
Bakshi Manish: So it was in the control of the operator. He can change the limit. It should not be. It should never be given.
Roopesh: It. It clarifies that the management of change procedure was not followed because it was given to operator itself.
Bakshi Manish: Yes.
Roopesh: Correct. So that is the significance of Moc.
Bakshi Manish: Okay.
Roopesh: Let's move on.
Roopesh: So training, we all understand it is important because system ultimately has to be operated by the people.
Roopesh: So if proper awareness.
Roopesh: even the whatever procedure that we make if people are not aware, and if they're not following.
Roopesh: they are not following because of, they are not understanding the significance of following it.
Roopesh: So everything goes in vain.
Roopesh: So training and awareness and ensuring the competence level is very important for the
Roopesh: safety of system and people.
Roopesh: and there should be means periodic evaluation.
Roopesh: And also with the change we make, we again have to make sure that whatever change we have made, or if there is any requirement of additional control measure is properly getting communicated to all stakeholders
Roopesh: and make sure that they have understood it properly.
Roopesh: Okay, the next is contractor safety management.
Roopesh: So we all understand that the contract workers are the
Roopesh: Frontline people who, directly getting exposed to the hazards because they are doing most of the jobs
Roopesh: by hand, so particularly on the injury front.
Roopesh: They are the they are contributing majority of numbers in terms of incidents.
Roopesh: So, and at the same time they are less fed.
Roopesh: So they are more worried about their job security. So they just follow the instruction. Whatever supervisor is giving, and they do whatever is being asked to do
Roopesh: without emphasizing much on ensuring safety before doing it.
Roopesh: So it is a responsibility of supervisor and management to make sure that they are provided with enough equipments
Roopesh: the control measures, the working condition. Everything is safe for them to do, and as a system
Roopesh: for any organization. It is important, very much important.
Roopesh: to have the contractor safety management in place.
Roopesh: so that start with contractor selection. Their performance evaluation
Roopesh: through which we can make sure that the
Roopesh: a safe working conditions are provided to them.
Roopesh: Investigation. Again, I will request somebody to please share what the significance of this aspect or this element
Roopesh: students.
Suraj kumar mishra: Yes, sir, no, sir, we but Thai Kurunga.
Suraj kumar mishra: The incident we may call with incident decaying.
Roopesh: Do you see? Coincident investigation.
Suraj kumar mishra: Sir. Click process rated, sir.
Roopesh: 9. 9. Coincident.
Suraj kumar mishra: Those are a workplace accidents or hotel at the plant way.
Suraj kumar mishra: So yes, sir.
Roopesh: Yeah.
Suraj kumar mishra: Workplace, related Joby. Incident. It's like gas cut injury, physical injury type job
Suraj kumar mishra: instance, with the.
Roopesh: Very good.
Suraj kumar mishra: Or in future, may you repeat now, corrective action, preventive action.
Roopesh: Very good.
Suraj kumar mishra: Repeat it now.
Roopesh: Wajay vajay, ma'am, generally.
Suraj kumar mishra: But identify.
Roopesh: But it
Roopesh: correct. So I'm.
Suraj kumar mishra: Said.
Roopesh: Purpose. Main way over there.
Roopesh: Let's go root cause to find out that
Roopesh: about the corrective preventive measure right.
Roopesh: Completed the repeat name.
Roopesh: Repeat now, sir, very nice.
Roopesh: So scalia requirement, pyramid.
Suraj kumar mishra: Yes, sir.
Roopesh: Major fatal of a serious injure and minor injuries then near misses, then unsafe act conditions
Roopesh: bottom level become Grogan after the pyramid may upper app. Jada numbers to ensure kanegi near miss
Roopesh: or unsafe act conditions. Other report. No.
Roopesh: A key homes for prevent calls. Okay.
Roopesh: Auragar incident for investigation or Kappa Johan. Implement.
Roopesh: Good, then, management of change. Personnel.
Roopesh: No requirement. Odn
Roopesh: abhijit.
Abhijit Patil: Hello!
Roopesh: Yeah.
Abhijit Patil: Sir Agarhama, the worst scenario man. Yeah, mostly go ahead.
Abhijit Patil: 1st of all, categories and categorization.
Roopesh: My question was.
Abhijit Patil: Who can, whom currently, who does.
Roopesh: Okay, so our main objective here.
Roopesh: Yagar, yeah. But love
Roopesh: check.
Roopesh: Okay?
Roopesh: So this man do specific process the experience with the Anna espo vectigo melda, or
Roopesh: okay.
Roopesh: So let us move to Pssr, which is the main topic.
Roopesh: Bahamna escaped.
Roopesh: Pieces are smaller changes, long shutdown facility or Tishara Johar agarpu nai facility develop pm, to Skillia.
Roopesh: So it's come up. Elements. Kiba. This paper, separately detailed when discuss about that.
Roopesh: You haven't about it already.
Roopesh: Now detail checklist, you know.
Roopesh: Well, when I say, yeah.
Roopesh: So under all these categories, general safety machinery, safety ergonomics and occupational health operating procedure training performance.
Roopesh: Okay? Joe interlocks with them safety instrumentation system. As you defined authentic pn, id ganda.
Roopesh: Then heat transfer media, heating pooling media, available toxic chemicals once they have auto skeletica checks and
Roopesh: or do say, health, safety, environment related to recommendation of address, blankening, environmental aspect.
Roopesh: community awareness and emergency response, electrical safety and fire protection. There are number of checkpoints which we check under Pssr.
Roopesh: so it's clearly is not benefit here.
Roopesh: So final checkpoint to her for new and identified equipment provide so that
Roopesh: we don't get any surprises after initiating the equipment or the plant
Roopesh: Psmk elements who appropriately address.
Roopesh: then, yeah, management of changing. It's for documentation complete. Why, again, safety operation, maintenance, emergency procedures.
Roopesh: healthcare recommendation, address training, complete mechanical integrative system workplace in place. Here again, Pnidk helps a
Roopesh: check. Pipeline has over completely miss over here connecting over here open the area.
Roopesh: So physical verification will be confirmed on that basic items available operator replace.
Roopesh: Now, scalia which prerequisites vopi.
Roopesh: We do. Pssr has.
Roopesh: We'll a team, just my production, mechanical technology, electrical instrumentation, safety, respective representative, Johan Mehnas.
Roopesh: Pssr. Do have formal owners a year.
Roopesh: It's the documentation sign off by the review team, or it's the completion, authorization, jokie facility
Roopesh: before startup
Roopesh: or other smack which other deviations have those clearly a thorough approval by the site head.
Roopesh: It's for organized so definitely Pssrp requirement. Tell us, identify.
Roopesh: So, Hongko, ensure particularly your team formation of the app or her team member.
Roopesh: The role you have is clear on Asia.
Roopesh: because, for example, if we are including the maintenance person.
Roopesh: then he has to make sure that during the requirement of maintenance all the prerequisites are provided
Roopesh: which may be difficult to have it in place after startup.
Roopesh: Yeah, fair, which modification requirement?
Roopesh: Oh, in short, of that.
Roopesh: So there are various standards under which this Essr checkpoints are prepared.
Roopesh: So Osha also recommend the list of checkpoints, and mostly there are common.
Chetan Bhoyar: So that was.
Roopesh: Hello.
Roopesh: okay.
Roopesh: So now now we will discuss on the
Roopesh: interlinks, you know, or relevance with the
Roopesh: other elements other Psm elements with the Pssr.
Roopesh: so if we see employee participation, as in Bsm elements.
Roopesh: so the potential interface, what Psr have?
Roopesh: So, as we discussed, do competence level have
Roopesh: of the team whether it is operation or maintenance work. Sr, so that we can have a check during Pssr.
Roopesh: I'll go for a training requirement so that we we can give as an observation and ensure closer.
Roopesh: particularly Jonai facilities. Thorough training is of a requirement.
Roopesh: So before commissioning that we have to complete.
Roopesh: so that the operating team be familiar with all the hazards and the control measures.
Roopesh: including the safety instrumentation system.
Roopesh: then process safety information.
Roopesh: So Pssr. Joe, help Kurdha adobe Mra. Process, safety information, equipments related here.
Roopesh: material hazards, and all the technology, and
Roopesh: on my joby installations and equipments, and or
Roopesh: connectivity voice of joy in place again in physically.
Roopesh: then pah! Check.
Roopesh: So Pha is generally a virtual thing that we do.
Roopesh: We are.
Roopesh: We are thinking of. This may go wrong with the help of the guide words and other things based on our experience.
Roopesh: But whatever recommendations are that we check physically through Pssr.
Roopesh: so that is the interface that we have then operating procedure. Yes, so
Roopesh: Pssr. Do have one to provide. Got the second check, Yamaraja operating procedure go, change the related ha
Roopesh: or other effect to a postcode.
Roopesh: Before starting that we need to update that also training. We already have discussed
Roopesh: mechanical integrity, so mechanical integrity and shows the safe operation or prevention of of the hazardous material
Roopesh: that remains inside the containment, and unnecessary exposure is not.
Roopesh: or any undoer incident does not happen so mechanical maintenance and the procedures
Roopesh: are very important along with the training of people who are maintaining.
Roopesh: So it is that verifies that the maintenance task process are done in place.
Roopesh: and workers are being trained properly on the task.
Roopesh: then the contractors, so contractor safety management is one of the elements, and Esr
Roopesh: can identify when certain contract job task requires specific training
Roopesh: in response to the change when contractor need to be trained or transform on the aspect of a change.
Roopesh: then, when we comes to non routine things so
Roopesh: non routing things are getting addressed either
Roopesh: through permit to work or the management of change. So for the activities we follow work, permit procedure.
Roopesh: and Pssr helps in verifying the
Roopesh: save work practices that is required which is getting
Roopesh: this is triggering event are in place and design
Roopesh: and implemented for the targeted workers, then management of change. So
Roopesh: management of change also, we were discussing
Roopesh: so Pssr. And go help to check of every Moc related activities and its documentation.
Roopesh: It is, of course, a Second level of protection to ensure the
Roopesh: Moc in working to keep workers and public safer.
Roopesh: nice flow mental ground. Considering that we are getting, we are on the same page.
Roopesh: Then incident investigation. We also have discussed
Roopesh: this major potential interface was of the Psr documentation. They provide support to investigation teams.
Roopesh: Can we give one example around this incident investigation like Pssr. Document.
Roopesh: so I will request Akshay.
Roopesh: We throw some light over it.
Roopesh: Option.
Akshay: What, sir?
Roopesh: Is Melbour, and you incident investigation may Pssr record over the okay, sir, as a help perspective.
Akshay: Client service interlocks follow up here, so insurance pay can pay.
Akshay: Wealthy, who I am.
Roopesh: Okay?
Roopesh: Very relevant original design. Which modification?
Roopesh: Yeah, fair noncompliance.
Roopesh: Yeah, so there is.
Roopesh: Shortcoming in design itself is on the initial design.
Roopesh: So that way, Esr documentation helps. Thank you.
Roopesh: Emergency planning response. It also has direct interface with it.
Roopesh: Checkpoint. Johan, discuss correct postman specific heading over there under emergency preparedness.
Roopesh: So all the changes which which may impact our emergency response or may create a new emergency scenario.
Roopesh: So Psr helps in ensuring that those scenarios are getting addressed in our onsite emergency plan.
Roopesh: and at the same time, that is.
Roopesh: there is a requirement to communicate and convey to all the stakeholders so required. Trainings are conducted, and people
Roopesh: be aware what the changes have been made
Roopesh: or what precautions they have to take in the operation.
Roopesh: Okay.
Roopesh: next is audit.
Roopesh: So the Pssr program will be audited on the regular basis, and
Roopesh: it helps in improving the Psr program itself.
Roopesh: Sorry.
Roopesh: So audit helps in what is getting missed? What are the lacuna in the system? What what we have to improve? So there may be 2 suggestions
Roopesh: under the Pdcs cycle. So that helps in improving the Psr implementation itself.
Roopesh: So it may be improvement in procedure, or it may be improvement in the implementation at site level.
Roopesh: Okay, I think so. We have discussed all the aspect around.
Roopesh: Any, any question from anybody.
Roopesh: Hello.
Roopesh: Jaytan.
Akshay: No, sir.
Roopesh: Second lawyer
Roopesh: again again, subkind, so we will save off of it.
Suraj kumar mishra: Sir! Hello.
Roopesh: Yes, sir. Pssr. Related question.
Roopesh: Yeah, exactly. But the.
Suraj kumar mishra: Sorry. He jumps.
Roopesh: Okay. So our intent is not to understand the exam questions.
Roopesh: Our intent to understand what is Pss are so understanding here the question.
Suraj kumar mishra: Yes.
Roopesh: I know.
Roopesh: So yeah, it was a package, or we have not discussed here.
Roopesh: Use case, other elements say, guy interfaces. And yeah.
Roopesh: how the 10th team formations are, yeah, checkpoint. Also it could be anything.
Roopesh: Ravi Kumar.
Roopesh: Yes.
Subhakanta Nayak: So modifications happen.
Subhakanta Nayak: So so it's a personal profile or maximum recommendation, I ask, or production manager.
Roopesh: Okay, so subtle changes over the head.
Roopesh: Am I correct
Roopesh: system aspect here to Hong Kong? As a person who knows the importance of it.
Roopesh: Hamgo. We need to be the cause in the matter.
Roopesh: We we have to make sure that it is getting complied all the time every time.
Roopesh: So whoever is taking call, whoever is making decision, we have to make
Roopesh: him or understand significance of it. And we have to make a protocol that without he uses our
Roopesh: or without Moc, no change will be taken, and every time we will do Psr.
Roopesh: Whether Moc required or not, so that
Roopesh: no surprises comes at later stage.
Roopesh: You know that we have to develop in the organization, and we have, we should be making effort.
Roopesh: or who slowly and steadily. We have to keep working on that
Roopesh: and make people understand importance of it.
Roopesh: Or same goes with the other aspect. Also.
Roopesh: without closing. We are under pressure to start.
Roopesh: Then, if it is imminent risk
Roopesh: or higher risk, then we have to put our foot down.
Roopesh: That Ea.
Roopesh: What administrative control we can put, if it is going to take some time.
Roopesh: suppose he's the lead time 4 months, so we cannot stop the plant for 4 months.
Roopesh: but yes, and in between, so that our risk be under tolerable.
Roopesh: But if we know, then we have to do something.
Roopesh: and it is more on the awareness and taking commitment from the leadership team.
Roopesh: The Hamco has system improved on process safety and the
Roopesh: we can. We can spread awareness through running campaigns in your in the factory or organization
Roopesh: sharing whatever the major process, safety events that has happened in various industries.
Roopesh: I don't know how much video share per second, which documentary regularity which campaign which competitions, and so that
Roopesh: the importance of process safety everybody understands.
Roopesh: and to schedule elements come systematically, can say, adopter can implement, does it.
Roopesh: So it is basically the culture we, we should try to shift
Roopesh: all good.
Roopesh: Any other question
Roopesh: get done anything from you.
Ketan Kevadiya: No, sir.
Roopesh: Okay.
Roopesh: Sushi sanjay vijit. Anything.
Sanjay Joshi: No, sir, I understand that we have to prepare a checklist thoroughly, each and every equipment equipment wise. It is more beneficial.
Roopesh: So it is not equipment wise.
Roopesh: It is the oh sub element, wise, you know, as the topic we discuss. No.
Roopesh: so under various headers. We need to list out checkpoints, and we should be.
Roopesh: We should standardize that in our organization.
Roopesh: it be. And there are ready references are available. You search on that. No, you will get so many of it.
Sanjay Joshi: Okay. Okay. Sir.
Roopesh: So we should have element with all the stakeholders we can discuss with the.
Akshay: Okay.
Roopesh: Analogy team process, safety team and finalize this.
Roopesh: What? What should be the checkpoints?
Roopesh: Because for different different type of industry checkpoints could be different.
Akshay: Hotel.
Roopesh: Okay?
Roopesh: So I can. I can say in general. Again, it's part of
Roopesh: In a procedure that we make in our factory.
Roopesh: But in general, Agarami, chemical industry, Gibhataron.
Roopesh: So Joe teams cooperate Carneval, you know, operations team.
Roopesh: those who maintain current energy. This is my maintenance. My mechanical electrical instrumentation.
Roopesh: Osuke Allawa. Safety is one of the stakeholder.
Roopesh: you know. So project team, you know Uske, representative.
Roopesh: other Afk industry may commissioning team Alexei, representative from commissioning team.
Roopesh: You see, technology supplier, we help. We have so many local equipment here.
Roopesh: So whose particular case may have representative
Roopesh: plant a operator policy, the physical specified skill house. Particular process.
Roopesh: Yeah. So
Roopesh: now, purpose is the absabi aspect, even other safety team, our legal team separate hand, you know. You can take representative from there.
Roopesh: or Jahadar leading the, so it may be led by commissioning team or project team.
Roopesh: No, go and decide yourself.
Roopesh: But majority, it is the operations person who generally leads.
Roopesh: Let's go hand over Lena Land. New facility gave me.
Roopesh: or other existing facility. We both are a checkpoint.
Roopesh: So generally the plant head leads that
Roopesh: you got a chance.
Akshay: Yes, sir.
Roopesh: Any other question from anybody.
Roopesh: Okay, if there is nothing else we can close. I'm done from my side.
Roopesh: Thank you. Everyone.
Sanjay Joshi: Thank you.
Akshay: Thank you so much, sir.
Suraj kumar mishra: Thank you, sir, thank you.
Yogesh Chamadiya: You know.
Santosh Kumar Palo: Interesting.